When responding to the questions that follow, please include the number of the question in your response for easier tracking.
1. In The Giver, each family has two parents, a son, and a daughter. The relationships are not biological but are developed through observation and a careful handling of personality. In our own society, the makeup of family is under discussion. How are families defined? Are families the foundations of a society, or are they continually open for new definitions?
2. In Jonas’s community, every person and his or her experience are precisely the same. The climate is controlled, and competition has been eliminated in favor of a community in which everyone works only for the common good. What advantages might “Sameness” yield for contemporary communities? Is the loss of diversity worthwhile?
3. Underneath the placid calm of Jonas’s society lies a very orderly and inexorable system of euthanasia, practiced on the very young who do not conform, the elderly, and those whose errors threaten the stability of the community. What are the disadvantages and benefits of a community that accepts such a vision of euthanasia?
4. Why is the relationship between Jonas and The Giver dangerous, and what does this danger suggest about the nature of love?
5. The ending of The Giver may be interpreted in two very different ways. Perhaps Jonas is remembering his Christmas memory–one of the most beautiful that The Giver transmitted to him–as he and Gabriel are freezing to death, falling into a dreamlike coma in the snow. Or perhaps Jonas does hear music and, with his special vision, is able to perceive the warm house where people are waiting to greet him. In her acceptance speech for the Newbery Medal, Lois Lowry mentioned both possibilities but would not choose one as correct. What evidence supports each interpretation?
6. There are groups in the United States today that actively seek to maintain an identity outside the mainstream culture: the Amish, the Mennonites, Native American tribes, and the Hasidic Jewish community. What benefits do these groups expect from defining themselves as “other”?
7. What are the disadvantages? How does the mainstream culture put pressure on such groups?
Lois Lowry helps create an alternate world by having the community use words in a special way. Though that world stresses what it calls “precision of language,” in fact it is built upon language that is not precise but deliberately clouds meaning. What is the danger of such misleading language?
8. Examine the ways in which Jonas’s community uses euphemism to distance itself from the reality of “Release.” How does our own society use euphemism to distance us from such realities as aging and death, bodily functions, and political activities? What are the benefits and disadvantages of such uses of language?
Prepared by Gary D. Schmidt, Department of English, Calvin College
Friday, May 29, 2009
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1. How a family is defined depends on who you talk to...as we learned in interpersonal, families as we know them are changing. Most of us have friends outside of our biological "units" that we call or consider family. I do believe that family is the foundation for society...but I also believe that families are redefined every day. As we change as a society so do our views. Family is anyone whom we share a special closeness.
ReplyDelete2. Well "Sameness" would eliminate the conflicts caused by racism and classes, but it would also take away our right to choose. Our differences not only make us more interesting, but they also teach us valuable lessons about who we are. If we were all the same we would lose that indiviualality and we would be a dull society. All of the things that we know and appreciate come from our differences like the different types of dances, music, and foods to name a few. So, no, losing that diversity would not be worth it. Our diversity is what makes life worthwhile.
3.The people in this book do not get to choose to leave this world...there is a facade that it is a release into a community, with perhaps more freedom to explore what they have been missing, after they have served their time in the current one. Many people in the community apply for this release without an understanding of what they are asking for. Furthermore, the babies have that choice, among many others, made for them. In this book they were eliminating perfectly healthy children (identical twins), which to me seemed to be a contradiction to the goal for everone being the same. Twins are probably more alike than any other two individuals, right down to the DNA. The only benefit I can see to euthanasia, is the promise of a quick death with no long term suffering, but who would choose to die if they weren't suffering?
4. The relationship between Jonas and The Giver is dangerous, because they are the only two people in the community who has a sense of reality outside of this make-believe world that has been created for them. They know what love is...but they also know about free will and diversity...the truth has set them free of the ties that bind them to a blind society. The fact that they deem love as a dangerous thing, is a testament to it's power. Love brings about the desire for Jonas to change the way everyone looks at life and each other. Love makes him realize that he wants more for the people of the community, he wants to share all of the beauty this world has to offer, even if does bring pain into their lives...after all how you can you know pleasure without pain, or joy without tears...he wants to open their eyes to everything they've missed.
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ReplyDelete5. It never even occured to me that he could have died until I read this question, but I can see how that may be possible. Lowery sets the scene by telling the reader that he is starving and freezing and barely covered enough to keep warm...maybe that sudden happiness he described, the warmth he felt, the lights he saw, and the music he heard was what we all hope for after we die...a peaceful afterlife and promises of what lay beyond our realm of earthly existance. At first the thought was displeasing...that maybe he did not survive after all that work to keep searching. But with his death, maybe all of the memories he had were released, and through his death he was the savior for all the people he loved.
6. I think all these "other" groups in the U.S. are trying to preserve their way of life and the only way to do that is to distance themselves from a changing society...a changing world. The benefits beyond preservation is solidarity, security from tne "evils", and a greater commitment to family and community. If these groups are separate from the rest of society it is easier to achieve conformity, although more and more amish are working outside the communities they live in.
7. We live in a world where different is not always welcome...what we don't understand scares us, so we pick apart their lives until we find something wrong. In the book, this community built a structure for failure. We don't live in a world where disaster never strikes, be it nature or man-made. In order to know how to deal with these inevitables life throws our way, we need to have experiences so we can learn from our mistakes and make better decisions...should we confront the same circumstances in the future. Alot of wars are fought because we do not communicate fairly or effectively.
8. The term "Release" portrays killing as a normal life process. We use euphemisms in everday life...we don't die, we pass away....we don't age, we mature....we don't fart, we pass gas...and politicians don't lie, they spin the truth. These are societies ways of of accepting the ugly truths of life. Euthanasia is another euphemism...one we currently use for killing in today's world.
This was a great book....kept me wondering what was going to happen next. It doesn't matter to me how SHE meant for the book to end...Jonas is a hero either way. The message of the book was clear...the beauty of this world should be experienced every day through living and loving with our eyes and our minds wide open. I'm looking forward to reading the two sequels
Uh....um......what she said.....
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1. I think families are the foundation of our society, where as a child you begin to learn how to interact with others. (Considering that, orphanages could be viewed as a family.) In our lifetime, families are moving away from the traditional mom, dad, and 2.5 children. A neighbor made a comment the other day after loosing a 16 year old pet, that she was like family. So pets are often considered part of the family unit.
ReplyDelete2. Sameness would certainly ease a lot of stress in life! I am sure people who have been discriminated against would, at times, welcome it. But I think sameness would be very boring, with no colors, no choices or options in life, what would be the point of living? Of course, in the book, except for Jonas and the Giver, no one had any idea that life had anything to offer other than what was in front of them.
I feel that diversity is worth the pain that sometimes accompanies it.
3. To me, this sounds like what Hitler was trying to accomplish.
4. Jonas and the Giver know the truth about what life has to offer. They share a common bond, and while 'families' shared a common bond, it was a cold and calculated decision made by others for them. Jonas and the Giver had a relationship based on feelings and memories, all that warm fuzzy stuff that makes us human. Love is risky, there is always pain involved because of the feelings, but it is well worth the hurt to know love.
5. Jonas and Gabriel had been on a long trip and were out of provisions. They had finally hit reality. I felt, as I was finishing the book, that they were dying, and Jonas was giving Gabriel one last happy memory and releasing all his given memories to the people left in the community.
ReplyDeleteI can understand the other concept of the conjuring up the memory for survival purposes, but, as when given the memory, Jonas always came back to the present.
6. To preserve their heritage.
7. It is easier to separate yourself from what you don't want to be or become. I remember hanging around with a person who said 'cool' all the time. Pretty soon, I was saying it all the time without even realizing it. It is easy to pick up things without even trying, let alone the experience of things 'forbidden' that would seem exciting to a young person(or older) who has never been allowed choices outside his world.
I think more than cloud meaning, the words used, while they were supposed to express how they felt, were as calculated as their daily lives in expressing their feelings. When Jonas became aware of what was going on, he saw the lies in everything, even the way the words were used. Misleading words cause frustration in relationships and ignore the real intention of communicating effectively.
8. The word 'Release' sounds like you are given a freedom.
I bake and decorate cakes, sometimes the cake will crack or be lop-sided, or a big chunk will stick to the bottom of the pan, but when you ice it and put all the pretty swirls and roses on it, who would know what ugliness lies underneath?
With words, using one that doesn't sound so ugly will help ease the concience about something that is wrong.
I liked this book. It is not something I would have picked on my own to read, which made me step outside of my comfort zone. The idea presented in the book made me thankfull for my life and the choices I have to make freely every day.
Lisa...I completely agree on your answer for 3...that thought crossed my mind as I wrote the answer for mine. Creation of an ideal society is no different than trying to create an Arian race.
ReplyDelete1. I do think families are open to new definitions. Like we learned in class...the "normal" family is a husband,wife and 2.2 children. I don't agree. I know my family is my family...with one child. I know unmarried happy couples with kids are a family. A single mom...family. Who has the right to define what a family is? Like Mary and Lisa said...Family is whomever you share a closeness too...and even pets!
ReplyDelete2. Advantages? lol NONE! What a dull boring world it would be if we were all the same. Each conflict and issue we face in life makes us stronger...we learn..we evolve...Imagine not even seeing colors? Worthwhile? Not a chance....A hueless rainbow? a drab sky? no feeling the sun warm you up in the summer...it's a life I would never love. I can not image not having a choice in who I marry, my job...We take for granted the freedom we do have. To me that isn't a society...it's a prison..by people on a power trip to take away everything beautiful...even bad memories..we need to grow.
3. I agree with both previous posts to 3. It is crazy I think. Sad that people would want to take away everything that makes people special.
4. Dangerous because they know the truth. They know about death and war and pain. But love..to feel love makes it worthwhile...but having so many memories to burden by themselves...they want to share...Once you are the giver...it saddens you deeply not only to bear all the bad memories...but knowing you can't share and enlighten everyone about a cold snowy day sledding down a hill and seeing a rainbow. The Giver and reciever know what the community is truly missing.
5. I percieved the end as them dying also. As already said...they were starved and froze and could hardly take another step. I think Jonas wanted to find another place...a community where the truth was known..but I think he didn't find it...and they died...but a death worthwhile because by sharing the memories...they brought the truth and beauty back to the world.
6. and 7. Yeah what Lisa and Mary said! It keeps there families tighter, I think. They don't live in a computer, phone, text messaging world where we are quickly losing closeness with one another. But I think some of them want to step out...to enjoy alittle modern technology. I had Amish girls at ELder Beermans...buying THONGS!!! And their faces were bright red and they were giggling. I think even those groups..are changing...just way slower than we are. I think the main disadvantage is lack of technology...even though they work hard and are so close to one another...some things could be much easier with alittle of modern technology. But like I said....they are already using some of it...Amish are driving cars now..and shopping at Walmart. I have seen them buy many clothes..working in retail...mainly younger Amish ladies though, instead of hand making every single thing. Sometimes the cost of material and time...it is easier to buy a shirt or pants at walmart.
8. I think our own society misguides death just like they do release. We are taught...when we die..we will see a bright light and be welcomed into open arms at the pearly gates in Heaven, if we are good. Who knows that really? Touchy subject...I'm not going to take farther. The release part really bothered me...I had tears...I am not an abortion person...I just did not like that part at all....made me sick.
I enjoyed this book...except the release. Like Lisa said...kinda out of my element...when I started reading it in...about 5 pages in, I was thinking honesty...this book is not for me....I won't lie...but I made myself keep reading and not long after that...it had my attention and I couldn't put it down. I thank Jan for suggesting it and having us step outside the box...I liked the book.
1. I think family is the foundation for a society but the definiton of a family in our society is certainly changing. In Interpersonal we learned how children develop with and without nurturing. In the beginning, we rely on family to provide the necessary nurturing and to help us develop our social skills...but the definition of a family can no longer be described as a father, a mother and 2.2 children.
ReplyDeleteYour family are those people who love you unconditionally, give you strength when you feel weak, and give you hope when you feel despair...relationships are built through the nurturing of each other, not biology.
2. I don't think that everyone in Jonas's community were the same...Lily wanted to be a birthmother but was told that was not a good job and that she would become a common laborer after three years as a birthmother...this would lead me to believe that there were class divisions.
There is no way to have complete sameness without creating robots...racism and poverty could be eliminated through a community such a Jonas's but the loss of individuality would not be worth it.
Communism is what comes to mind when I think of this kind of community.
3. There are no benefits of this kind of practice...We are not gods chosen to eliminate those who we feel do not conform. I would worry at what point was it was going to be decided that I no longer conformed and that I would be released.
4. The relationship between Jonas and the giver was dangerous because they had knowledge of things the others were unaware of and the abiltiy to do whatever they pleased. This knowledge made them aware of their love for the community and they wanted to share their knowledge with the community. They wanted the people to know the truth even if it was painful because this pain would also give them knowledge of love and pleasure.
5. The fact that Jonas and Gabriel might be dying never occurred to me. I guess I was as delusional as Jonas might have been. I can see where that could be what the author intended as the ending but the ending also suggests that the memories had mostly faded and that Jonas was having a memory all of his own. His first real experience outside the community and what the giver had given him.
6. These other groups expect to remain outside the realities of poverty, racism, greed ect...which they do to a certain extent but they also have become more mainstream.
I live around a lot of Amish people and the younger ones are starting to do things differenty than the older ones. More of them work outside the Amish community. I feel they are starting to take on a "superior" feeling toward the non-Amish people of the community. I think they are nice people but they have just as many problems in their society as we have in ours.
7. Mis-leading language can persuade people to do things that they otherwise would not do. If they don't perceive the word to be bad then the can't perceive the action associated with the word to be bad. This would fall under the catagory of "group-think" that we also learned in interpersonal.
8. I think as a society we start teaching mis-leading language to our children before they can talk. We teach them to say words that are less offensive for things like bodily functions, getting old, or death so they do not embarrass us in public places. As people mature and learn the language better, they tend to accept the mis-leading language without questioning it because they were taught to do so at an early age. As adults, some still get embarrassed by the use of such words as penis or vagina to name a few.
wow...GREAT answers... I am finally getting caught up on the BLOG. I really don't have anything to add. I agree with much of what was said. looks to me that no one else is going to answers the questions.
ReplyDeleteSO I say we move on. Lisa2 did not enjoy the read so we should not continue on with the series. Let's find something new...
ANY SUGGESTIONS????
OH and someone that is an "author" needs to start an NEW thread for the book club in June and then we can cut this one off.
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heyyyy I said I liked it! lol Just not at first.
ReplyDeleteI think our book club kinda phizzled out didn't it. Everyone busy with life and school and sick parents! Understandable.
I will read whatever anyone wants...I'm easy goin!